That used to be the case on the old forum actually, but since the switch to this new separate website, and the making of mods anonymous, they just close reports for whatever reason and don’t allow you to correct their mistakes.
Atp they’re on an actual power trip haha.
At least he gave us a clear sign that the Pantsir is wrong.
“A land-based missile by definition cannot have such high starting speed”
Apparently no ground launched missile can ever go over Mach 2 then. So let’s report the VT-1 and Pantsir Missile as well as the Starstreaks.
I have no words anymore… By definition?! Does he know that the rockets used to fly to space also are in fact ground launched? How fast does he think Spaceshuttles went? I guess planes also can’t reach speeds higher than Mach 2 then. Man this guy whoever it is, is really unnerving…
This is why anonymous tech mods just makes the whole system worse by lowering the bar for actual moderation, and makes the whole system free of consequences for poor performance.
The old system was better, knowning who your mods were built trust in the community, this is a blunder on par with marketing lies.
If the whole making tech mods anonymous was because of doxxing, then it’s on Gaijin for not protecting the privacy of their employees.
The inconsistency against Munitions is a different issue that became more clear after the changes that came, after this report was created;
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/P4QHwv1Swvnn
is there noone that can be contacted in such cases?, this does just feel like a powertrip of a single ( or few ) mods
just like this
Allready done, waiting for answer
You’re reading it wrong, he’s saying “starting speed”. not max speed.
It would be quite interesting to see a land vehicle going mach 1 before launching a missile XD
So the exact same missile launched at mach one and going up to mach 3 cannot be compared to being launched from a stationary starting point. Mach 2 for the SLS seems reasonable and is what i have seen from most sources.
I didn’t read it wrong, but I have to admit I assumed it was a bit wonky english.
Even then. I hope that the Tech mod knows that the drag of an object and the thrust needed is squared.
If the Missile reaches Mach 3 from Mach 1, it will realistically accelerate to past Mach 2 on it’s own. It also depends on the launch altitude though so that’s a point that can make a difference.
I still find it highly dubious that someone goes around making wild claims. They ask for precise sources and then make up claims of their own that are just bananas.
Look at the radar range one:
“Radar mininim range is wrong”
The answer?
“That’s because it can’t see the helicopter low to the ground.”
?!
What sources show Mach 2 for the SLM missile? The only sources that say Mach 2 are for the SLS which is the A2A variant. The SLM has improved motors and more fuel so it would be unreasonable to expect it to perform the same.
if they tought that far aheat they could also see the conection between going mach 3 and hitting a target 30km out in 60s
(sory ment to reply to Markus752)
This assumes it has fuel enough to get up to that speed from the ground. It’s a lot more complicated than that.
This specific one isn’t a crazy claim at all. you have to take into account engine burn time as well as it having to maneuver from the very start. mach 3 is MAX, at high altitude (way less drag), high launch speed, flying straight. From the ground it HAS to make a 90 deg turn the first thing it does and it is automatically in way more dense air and as such has much more drag to fight through.
I didn’t say anything on the SLM. I’ve seen only one published secondary source state mach 3 for the SLM. Most other sources are third party and cant be used for reporting.
Then why does the SLM have the same top speed of Mach 2 when it is a different, improved, designed for surface launching missile. Are the SLS and SLM just being treated as the same then?
i do actualy have a question about that how come that the accepted 60s to 30km and the accepted (the 1 soruce) for speed dont account for 2 secondary sources for speed? i mean its clear as day from the time to target that is HAS to go faster than mach 2 ( even under the most ideal condition )
So realistically, what are we supposed to do?
We have come to a point where things are so modern that it’s rare to even have a single reliable source.
Gaijin just decided an arbitrary value that makes no sense and doesn’t meet any of the data points and tells us that we need to find something?
The missile can hardly reach 30km kinematically and yet the “Effective Range” is given at 40km.
The Range numbers are primary sources, right? So why don’t they at least try to make it meet the most basic data points?
For now it doesn’t even hit a target at 15km reliably, let alone 30 or 40km.
I have no idea, the only thing i know is that i haven’t personally seen more than one secondary source state mach 3 for the SLM. I don’t have any influence on those choices at all. the SLM being faster than the SLS makes logical sense, but sources are needed to be able to report it.
Result, no longer not enough data, now its just an Dublicate
Well we have already given another source for the speed…
If the manufacturer says it takes 60 seconds to target and it’s currently not even close to matching that, then I don’t see why they can’t use that.
It also clearly states 12km altitude before reaching a target 30km out. The ingame one would run out of energy to do anything at 12km.
I don’t know, i don’t handle bug reports, but i’m guessing it is because the time to distance doesn’t specify enough surrounding information (like maneuver amount, speed of target, altitude or similar things just as random examples) for it to be reliable enough to get a number out of.
Could you link that source? i haven’t personally seen it yet.
