Dont tease them, theres “players” dedicated to the german tech tree that will still find a way to perform worse in a Turm 3 at 3.0 than france players in something comparable.
Also: L3 clearly smoler than Clovis (or random other german premium tank) and better reload, so its obvious why they need to egopush every corner with a tank waiting behind xD
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Has nothing to do with the mode, the stuff you have listed
Who dat? Damn thats huge for such a low quality pic.
oh I think we know who alright
Is he wrong tho?
Have to play turms like a light vic but doesnt get scouting or lazer RF
Both have 20/ 30mm cannons.
Clovis is faster and takes way more shots due to the engine soaking shells
Turms gets stab, AP (broken) and im stuggling for any more benefits it has over clovis.
After using turm i wish i bought the clovis
mmm I dont think zis is front enuf, more front engine action pls hans
Let me get this straight: you want to make ground battles more fun by removing more fighters from lineups, just so our tanks can be obliterated even better at spawn by the usual bomber and/or attacker? Genius! A change made by true connoisseurs.
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they are actually lowering more figter’s brs in ground than increasing.
Even worse, it’s not just fighters, a bunch of strike aircraft are getting their BRs lowered as well
F-111A absolutely needs AIM-9J.
Equivalent attackers in other trees have far superior air-to-air missiles.
Su-22s carry six all aspect R-60M/MKs.
Give the plane its historical loadout of AIM-9Js.
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Vehicle: OF-40 Mk.2A
Gamemode: Ground Realistic
BR Change: 9.0 —> 8.7
Reason: If you’re lowering the BR of Leopard A1A1, then OF-40 Mk.2A should also receive a BR reduction.
Or give OF-40 Mk.2A the DM33, just like the Leopard 1A5. If both tanks are going to share the same BR, they should have comparable firepower.
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Vehicle: Sholef
BR Change: 7.3 → 7.0
Reason: In its current state, all of its features are weaknesses. The autoloader performs worse than its counterparts: 7.5 seconds for the first 3 rounds and then 20-25 seconds, compared to 7.5 seconds for the 2S19M1 at BR 7.0, and 6 seconds for the 2S19M2 at BR 7.3. Reloading is disabled if EITHER the loader or the autoloader gets damaged. Its “strong” armor is basically useless, as it cannot withstand even the weakest autocannons. It lacks a laser rangefinder as well.
The PzH 2000 at 7.7 feels like a whole BR stronger than this abomination
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I love seeing the huge amount of BR reduction suggestions that are results of the planned BR reductions of the Leos
We could protest against the Leo going down in BR and ask for other BRs to be raised, but I guess more BR compression is the better solution somehow
Ah hell nah, not the Sturmelefant
Mode: Air RB
Vehicle: B7A2 (TT version)
Recommendation: BR 3.7 - 3.7 (=keep current BR)
Reasoning:
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The TT B7A2 performs based on the raw flight performance much worse than the event B7A2 (Homare 23) and produces subsequently worse combat results.
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The only thing which is somehow comparable to the event B7A2 (Homare 23) is the turn performance in one circle fights and the armament - everything else (climb, top-speed at various altitudes) is objectively seen worse.
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The performance disadvantage produces subsequently worse battle results - everybody can visit StatShark and check all-time stats and stats for June and May 2026.
Detailed view:
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As a power user of the event B7A2 i see the BR increase from 3.7 to 4.0 justified - even as you should think about my proposal regarding the small bomb bonus - as otherwise the plane is unable to kill a base in full uptiers to 5.0 - that’s why i prepared a separate entry for the B7A2 (Homare 23) here.
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In order to validate my pov (=no BR change for TT version) i flew today 3 missions in the event version and 7 in the TT version which were (as usual) mostly full uptiers as the BR 4.7 has highly popular aircraft like Yak-3s, La-7s and F8F-1s to name a few.
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In direct comparison the TT version has clear performance disadvantage vs the event version and the raw in-game climb and speed disadvantage is obvious. To make this clear: I used the TT version in ~2,200 battles and the event version ~ 10,000 times using a joystick / hotas (without instructor) which gives you a way better impression regarding actual flight performance compared to standard players using MnK and fly with autopilot.
Combat results / effectiveness:
From a pure “in-game” performance for the mode Air RB a BR increase seems not justified - simply based on the fact that aircraft at the same BR with different and similar roles perform way better in the categories:
- Kills per Spawn
- Kills per death
- SL & RP income
So if you compare the TT version with interceptors, fighters, dive- and level bombers you see nothing special - as the top performers in this bracket produce way better results - whilst they don’t appear with a BR increase in this round.
Summary:
Therefore it looks like that the guys in charge for this consultation round simply looked at the event plane and assumed that the TT version would be just a c+p version of the event version. This is not the case.
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