Shenyang J-11, J-16, J-15, History, Performance & Discussion

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Now we pray they actually change its name…(i dont expect anything else)

man, yall still hoping gaijin will do anything for china?

ive like completely given up hope, There Is Nothing We Can Do

yes there is
and that is making reports with proper sources
and if that is done then they also get accepted
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/wFAJQOFOjyrP

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they will forget about the report and change nothing for five years

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Thought the J11BG and J11BGH use the 10Bs now?

yes they do my comment was in regard to the J-11D

Not sure if anything has ever been posted about it before as I haven’t had a chance to check, but does anyone know anything about the IRST on the J-16?

I’m wondering if either it hasn’t been upgraded by the Chinese or if it has and whether it functions similarly to the one on the Su-35S, where it can act as a targeting pod

nope
the same as for most things chinese

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Oh well, thanks anyways

Could someone please create a bug report for the missing AK-98A?

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Community Bug Reporting System here, I created it yesterday. Plz reply to me if something is wrong in this report.

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looks good!

please have this report be spread around and help support it for chances of a PL-12 buff
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/d8dX4MxWPAJD

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it got accepted

Thank you for your work :DDD

If pl12 can really restore its previous stats, I believe pla will still be a lot of fun. Although it’s not as melee as r77-1 or mica, it’s very average.

Before they butchered it, PL12 could turn very sharply off the rails. Almost close to R-77. If they revert the changes i see myself and many others will be back to J-10A gaming since it gets that 85° gimbal limit. At the moment PL-12s have literally nothing to go for, i have played maybe 5 matches in total in total ever since the change even though i really like the aesthetics of J-10A. Didn’t even bother to crew J-15T and J-10C.

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If the PL-12A gets its old agility back, it won’t be average at all — it’ll be legit strong, right up there with R-77-1 and MICA as T0.

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It was never as good as the R-77 or Mica in terms of instantaneous pull. Its performance was closer to the Derby/R-darter, perhaps with a little more FinAoA. But it also had a pretty respectable range, which is what made the PL-12 special.