It has the radio hoop so 57mm.
https://www.lonesentry.com/articles/jp-use-smoke/index.html
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Flakpanzer 341 aka Coelian had chassis fully built. Wooden mockup turret was planted on Panther Ausf. D. I would not say it was entirely unbuilt as a vehicle since it was supposed to use redundant or damaged chassis and use already manufactured 3.7 cm cannons. The only actual unique thing on it was its turret which yes was only a mock up.
I do support adding Ho-Ri I. Design was intended to be produced, it has its unique parts produced and we have a hull of Chi-Ri. Adds uniqueness and not copy-paste. I want it added just like I want P.43 and P.43 bis variant.
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Well I am as well the proud owner of R2Y’s and Ho-Ri prod
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Hull was already exisiting, and gun were already exisitng.
They just had to follow the wooden mokup to finish the turret, and put in the things.
The hull of Ho-Ri prod wasn’t other than a wooden mockup. So it’s more of the opposite.
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That’s a Panther Hull. Guess what likely happened to the concept? They removed the Wooden turret and added an actual Panther D turret onto it and shipped it to combat.
That said, the argument still falls short, unlike the Ho-RI’s, which were in constant development and production.
30x170 wants to argue that the Koelians are more real than the Ho-Ri. Except it’s not, cause unlike the Koelian->One is actually being developed.
The other became scrap metal and plywood.
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+1 for the real Ho-Ri
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no i believe MAI did those images, i was around in the Wot forums when he was making the Ka-To models (god this is close to a decade ago) early in their modeling career, cant remember their name believe it started with a g.
That 2 images showing inside of Ho-Ri variants are original from book 日本の戦車 1978
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This image is real and from the 1978 book like @skultew1234 said.
This image is fake and is doctored by mashing together the two drawings above together to justify the unhistorical Ho-Ri we have
Please see the “Clearing the Air” section in the OP
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Because it didn’t existed, but parts existed i may agree for it to be event vehicle, i would agree for it to be premium or TT, but then event vehicle classification would need to be removed, as devoured many vehicles making them unobtainable.
+1, should replace the current Ho-Ri ASAP.
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The E-25 have around 3 hull build
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800-1000hp Tigers and Panthers with far stronger armor and low balled weight estimates are greatly different from what we currently have lol…
E 50 and E 75 lack sufficient documentation to fully model, even if we knew they started construction (pretty sure they did actually make some suspension components?).
We at least have sufficient drawings of the Ho-Ri II to model it, whereas the E 50/75 would always be speculative above the hull, and even then, we might not have the latest drawing of the hull.
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From what I understand, some of the E-series tanks were more design projects than actual tanks intended for production in the near-future
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It seems that Gaijin has finally made the decision to remove both ahistorical Ho-Ri vehicles from War Thunder by September 1st. If you still don’t have them, and want it, now is the time to grind.
I can only hope Gaijin chooses the historically accurate versions, but let’s not hold our breaths
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I fear they’ll just be replaced by some sort of Thai/Malay vehicle that’s 80% chance to be C&P. Purely so they can finally (if rightfully) remove the Ho-Ri’s
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They said the Type 99 was the replacement already, so I won’t get my hopes up for anything.
That said if they do decide to add a subtree vehicle around 7.X BR then there really isn’t any non-unique options here in the first place, so if we do get something it will be interesting.
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It really bothers me how they still pretend to care about accuracy after filling the game with loads of classified weapons and vehicles with the most vague and made up performance and capabilities based on Gaijin’s whims. So they are allowed to do that for modern tanks but not ww2 ones?
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What Thai or Malay vehicle would fit?
Do they have some sort of ATGM box?