I knew that turret looked somewhat familiar.
Well yeah it’s hitfact, unfortunately it’s another Ito 90M situation and they believe they should be the only ones to get this Patria
Only ones? I knew ıtalian players were greedy but not that greedy.
Anyway they can live in fantasy world but I highly doubt Gaijin agrees with them in this case.
Lmao, you clearly don’t sit in their chats, some believed they should’ve gotten the Gripen E before us or that they need it more than us lol
Oh I do, they still think they should get Gripen E through Brasil and I debated with some of them.
They are so greedy that having other nations top tier shiny vehicles aren’t enough and demands more, same for British players, they want to see Aussie Abrams/Canadian Leopards just to satisfy their fragile ego.
Nah I’m fine with nations getting stuff if the subtree used it but I’d like for something else to be added instead or to wait until something becomes the new mainstay.
Like when Finland was added the 2A6 felt like a low blow since it was still technically the best MBT on Germany. Imo I would’ve rather seen a Patria model be added but whatever snail.
Same thing with like the IRIS-T, I didn’t want it to go to Sweden immediately because that takes away, I’d like for it to be added a few years or so from now.
Same deal with Italy, they don’t need a Gripen E because it’s our top tier that’s all we have until we see 5th gen.
I’d like to preserve the unique vehicles to trees for a while so at least until they get something new.
Personally when the Leo 2A8 comes I don’t think it should go to Norway immediately. I’d like Germany to have some pull for a while and then later on it could go to Norway after they add some other Leos to Germany
There is difference between asking sub tech tree to see those vehicles in game and demanding those vehicles just satisfy your ego.
British and Italian mains does the second.
Technically speaking Strv122 was still better than 2A6 which is why it didn’t cause major impact, on the other hand those people wants to see Abrams and Leopards because they know these tanks are better than Challenger2’s and that is the only fact they care about.
At least Sweden has every right to demand IRIS-T considering they signed the deal and literally purchased that SAM system which cannot be said the same thing for those nations, but stil they could’ve added NASAMS3 instead of Elde to save us from miserable experience.
They certainly don’t considering they already have AESA EFT which didn’t even enter the service they will recieve F-35’s iirc.
Agree.
Buddy Sweden has also ordering 2A8 so naturally it’s Swedish mains right to ask for it.
They can still add previous armored Leopards in order to close the gap between Sweden and Germany, that way no one will get angry when both nation recieves the 2A8 at the same time.
Your ideas are quite acceptable and genuine but Gaijin also has more options to handle these situations.
Don’t think they can really claim this one unless it was specifically meant as an export to Italy, def makes more sense to go to Finland/Sweden more in this case, otherwise it could go to both
There’s 2 more 120mm variants, 1 will probably go to Poland TT/Sub since it was specifically built on the Rosomak variant as an option for them
The last one is the XC-8 with a 120mm which was also not aimed at anyone specific as far as i’m aware
Worst case scenario you can give the XC-8 to Sweden and the Hitfact to Italy
Cope will always cope, there isn’t any reason it would go to Italy but people will say what they want.
yeah, i was so confused when you mentioned italy; i was sure that they had nothing to do with the Patria platform, and the fact that the HITFACT-Patria was only seen (as far as I know) in a 2019 showcase, so Gaijin quite likely won’t add it anyway
Except for the fact that the Hitfist & Hitfact turrets are mounted on Italian vehicles (both made in Italy and operated by the Italian Army). Since i’m pretty sure that turret is mounted on a Ariete, Centauro and maybe the Freccia chassis so the AMV XP would be a redundant addition in the Italian TT any ways. Not helped that the Centauro II would function identically to the AMV XP.
Edit. The Centauro II uses the exact same turret as the AMV XP so it would be redundant as i previously stated. It’s also mounted on a Marder and Tulpar chassis. Italy probably won’t get the latter but that they can get the former. Italy needs a tracked light tank more than a wheeled one
Cent 2 has the later model turret with an autoloader, this is a mk.1 turret, these are two very different turrets
My confusion reading that and thinking of this
Bribish brain
Different turret
Mk1
Mk2
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any big difference stat wise between them?
Autoloader (fixed 5s reaload), blow-out panel, gen 3 thermal for both optics, rws, spall liner, autotracker, programmable ammo compatible, 16 rosy smoke launcher instead of 8
Small note:
The mk1 should also have spall liner and autotracker (bug report have already been made)
For the programmable ammo and the new rosy smoke launcher, they where integrated in the 3.0 version of the Centauro 2 upgrade program, the ingame one is a 1.0 version
Hey! SAAB made a new shell! Check it out! And sweden really neeeds some heavy tanks
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They’ve made a new Bolide missile with improved warhead and an improved Tandem for the 84mm recoiless with increased pen
Are you refeering to one of those or like a tank round?