I’m very happy about Ho-Ri’s removal. The design we got in-game is complete fiction, and it should have never been added.
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The RAH-66 has no countermeasures at all—no flares, no chaff. It only carries 12 Hellfires , and they are not the AGM-114K version.
Meanwhile, the AH-64A gets AGM-114K Hellfires , has chaff and flares , carries 16 Hellfires , and can also take 4 air-to-air missiles .
Do you really think it’s fair that both helicopters sit at the same 11.3 BR ?
As I said before, the RAH-66 should be BR 11.0 . Its current battle rating does not reflect its actual combat capability compared to other helicopters at the same BR.
Thank you.
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The decision to increase the Su-39 from 11.3 to 11.7 is very strange.
Why was its BR increased? The Su-39 doesn’t even have a thermal imaging, making it almost blind in bad weather or low-visibility conditions. Yet you’re placing it into battles against top-tier SAM systems with modern fire-and-forget missiles. Does that really make sense?
What’s even more confusing is that the Su-25T was not moved up as well, even though the two aircraft are almost identical in terms of combat performance. The Su-39’s radar is very limited and is mainly useful for ground target detection. It is not a significant advantage that justifies a higher BR.
This BR change feels inconsistent and difficult to justify based on the aircraft’s actual capabilities.
IS-2 should move down, bur the churchie shouldn’t move up. If they really wanted to nerf it, they could do a reload nerf
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TRAM at 11? Time to move it to the BIN for now.
How nice that all AV8 and Harrier went down, how fun for all 8.3 players.
Also move EldE 98 to GRB 10.7 might do some good then.
AH-56A, AH-1S, AH-1F, Tzefa D/E, SA.342M can also move to GRB 9.3 same as HKP9A (FC), firing range 3.75-4km range is too short.
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Ah yes, 11.7 and 11.3 is the same BR, forgot that
They are not even close.
Su-25TM gets Kh-25MPU, Kh-31P, Kh-29TE and Kopyo
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12.0 would be way too high for a tank with 480mm pen and bad survivability. Personaly i feel like the 11.3 to 11.7 change wasnt needed already, but 11.7 to 12.0 is TOO much for the type 90
I bought the A-4E TRAM while it was on sale, and not long afterward its BR was increased. That was very disappointing.
Even at its previous BR, facing systems like the 2S6 Tunguska was already difficult, especially since making bad weather and low-visibility battles much harder. The aircraft also has poor maneuverability and is an easy target for fighters. Its only real role is precision ground attack.
Now you’re placing it into matches where it can face systems like the Tor-M1 , which is even more dangerous. That significantly reduces the aircraft’s survivability.
In about a year, this aircraft’s BR has increased dramatically. I don’t understand the reasoning behind these repeated increases. It feels like you’re slowly making the A-4E TRAM ineffective instead of balancing it.
I’m very disappointed with this decision.
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What?
Are you insane?
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And the TKX is an 11.7 max vehicle that was only up tired to justify the Type 81(c) going up to appease the CAS cry babies.
You do realize the Type 90 is an L2A4 that trades armour for fire power right?
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“Yes I got 3000 lb bombs on my f111a, vietnam time, america, f yeah!” - last words before getting disintegrated by iris t
Thanks for the psychology lesson! But how does this change the fact that making a direct hit in this case is almost impossible and this is an abnormal situation in general? So, even if you paint the plane’s canopy glass black, the target still exists and can be hit, right? The probability is just low.
Not to mention the constant buffeting of the airframe that makes the aiming pip micro-jiggle, combined with an insane parallax effect. If you try to attack horizontally following your logic, the parallax just gets worse. But hey, it’s totally easy, right? Even a level 10 newbie could master it.
When red SPAA is good at anti-air, it’s ‘bias’. When the Gepard or any other blue SPAA is good at anti-air, it’s just doing its job. I’m not talking about how It shreds “super armored” tanks, but ok.
Yeah, 8.3, but that doesn’t change things
If we’re talking about historical accuracy, digital ballistic computers didn’t even exist in Soviet aviation until the 1970s (starting with the Su-17 and MiG-27). So it physically couldn’t have had a proper CCIP back in the 50s anyway. You don’t even need to look for a manual. And let’s be honest, even American planes didn’t have digital ballistic computers back then, either they just used old gyro sights and pilot notes. Nobody had computers like that in the 50s.
Sea Harrier can take 4 AMRAAMs, which gives it an advantage at long range and during the early game pressure stage of a match, but yes, the FA 2 is a pretty bad plane, but due to the sheer power of the AMRAAM it needs to stay at 13.0, it’s hard to justify its placement even when compared to the Tornado F.3 Late so I believe your ask was in bad faith.
/s? but fr like the Sea Harrier is like the worst 13.0, if a plane goes down from a higher br, can you really expect it to be equal to the worst plane at that br? See, he’s arguing in bad faith
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I totally agree.
The AH-1Z should also be moved to 11.7. The AH-64D Apache has a radar and the two helicopters have very similar capabilities overall. I don’t understand why the Apache is being lowered to 11.7, while the AH-1Z is left at 12.0.
Having only two AIM-9Ms is not enough to justify such a large BR difference. The current BRs feel inconsistent and don’t accurately reflect the vehicles’ overall performance.
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Soukou-Tei No.4 Tier II > Tier I : a 1.3 BR boat should not be tier II, and it’s an especially weak one.
Moreover, the Type 5 at BR 1.7 is Tier I.
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Which is why they should have just changed it. Even radically. Right now what you get is that the fictional vehicles get to stay in the game, and because the Prod is so strong, it will remain popular and infest the bracket, but only experienced players will have access to it. This will make the vehicle even stronger while reducing competitive parity between the haves and the have nots.
I am sick of this methodology to handle older vehicles whose implementation they screwed up. It’s literally blowing dust under the rug and calling it a clean floor.
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Ground Realistic Battle
This for sure just an br change that punish skill players to unexperienced player.
IS2(all version) 6.3 - 6.3 just make all the IS2 the same BR not at 6.0 is not needed
Tiger 2 (Nr. 1-50) 6.7 - 6.7 we been through this already when the tiger 2p was at a lower br, all the skilled player spammed it so its br got changed to a higher br because they stump all matches. They stop playing it so no keep it there. It was put there for a reason dont forget
T26E5 6.7 - 6.7 are you serious no just no keep this at 6.7 and if you put the tiger 2 or is2 down 6.3 than put the M26 and Super Pershing at 6.3 get my old lineup back
Super Hellcat 6.3 - 6.3 its just like a m18 just for the late ww2 heavy armor. Where are you trying to take this vehicle to fight cold war vehicle? let it stay to ww2 please it dont make since to up br it
Leave this Area Alone and Make a br gap from WW2 to Cold War
(WW2 Era End 6.7 or 7.0 / Cold War Start at Reserves 8.0 or 8.3)
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Tiger II at 6.3? What the hell are you guys thinking!?
The Jumbos are already weak enough at their current BR, and now they’ll have to face Tiger IIs and IS-2s even more often? Do you really want to completely destroy what little “false balance” the game still has?
It used to be funny that the only real concern when playing a Jumbo was running into an experienced Tiger I player. Now the “fun” will be driving a Tiger II and completely crushing lower-BR vehicles because your turret can shrug off around 60% of incoming shots from a safe distance of over 1 km.
Are you actually balancing the game, or are you just putting new kings on long-forgotten, dusty thrones because of all the new vehicles introduced in the recent major updates?
Give me a break.
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According to the stats avaliable to me, the Italian dynamic duo at 13.0 has the best win rate, the M-346FA has a higher win rate than the Rafale M F3-R. However their br is justified due to their low speed and few, if any advantages over the planes at 13.3 that occupy similar roles.