Vehicle: RN Da Verazzano
Gamemode: Naval Realistic
BR Change: 4.3 —> 4.0
Reason: Currently, RN Da Verazzano is one of the slowest destroyers at its tier, with no strengths to make up for it. Her armament is below average(low fire-rate, and high dispersion), as well as her survivability (crew count below average, small size). Her torpedoes aren’t the best, as well as her AA defense, composed of 2 ineffective pom poms, and a bunch of 13.2s
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Right now there’s little point in playing these PzIV’s when their Sherman and T-34 counterparts are simply superior.
Armour? ------------- M4/T-34 > Pz IV
Gun handling? ---- M4 > T-34/Pz IV
Mobility? ------------ T-34 > M4 > Pz IV
Firepower? --------- M4 > Pz IV > T-34
Survivability? ------ M4/Pz IV/T-34
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couldn’t agree more. +++1
@Smin1080p_WT can you comment?
This is extremely relevant between the note on T20 in the OP and the highly dubious changes proposed (mainly all Zeros being moved up and Leopards 1A5 - down). Like, what’s the process for when the stats-based BR assignment suggests a visibly bizarre change?
Vehicle: YAK-130
Gamemode: Ground Realistic
BR Change: 9.7 —> 9.3
Reason: Flareless jet, against a multitude of IR SAMs is diabolical. Especially since KAB-500’s are lacking in range.
The other issue is that you have left A-4’s and its derivatives untouched.
So either keep the yak at 9.3, or increase the BR’s of all A-4 variants to balance it.
As far as I can tell, they almost entirely rely on their internal statistics, which mostly focus on player economy
Vehicles that earn players a lot of rewards on average will move up in BR, while those vehicles that earn the players less rewards on average will move down in BR
There are so many noobs using vehicles like the Tiger II that their stats are massively deflated, meaning they appear to underperform based on Gaijins point of view
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Agreed, I always felt like PZ IVs were, at the same time, disappointingly frustrating to play AND also undertiered.
Slow and sluggish, no armor… okay firepower, though. With this reload improvement, now they have superior firepower to the other tanks while being inferior in every other way, I think it’s balanced now.
Can’t wait to play Stug III G and its lineup after these changes!
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Suggestion
Naval
IJN Shimakazi (Squadron)
5.0>4.7
To match Akizuki, Hatsusuki and Suzutsuki which are going down to 4.7.
The extra torpedos are really only an advantage on open water maps, but the 3 main turrets vs the Akizuki class 4x Turret is a disadvantage at all times. If the Akizuki class DDs go down it is only right the Shimakazi should too.
Additionally the extra + 0.3 compared to the Kagero and Yugomu (also 3 turrets) no longer seems justified. Up against DDs and CLs firing SAP vs your HE only it seems a few extra torpedos isn’t really worth the cost.
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since the F-5A(G) is seemingly going to be unaffected by the BR changes, would it be possible to get its’ AIM-9Ms back?
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Why should it get AIM-9Ms at 11.0?
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Air Realistic Battles
F-14A IRIAF 13.3 - 13.3 dont need to be higher than su30 premiums
F-16CM PoBIT 14.3 - 13.7 air battles this aircraft got some new missile and a better radar but that amount it carries doesnt change and for the radar its good but not effective enough to have such a great br rating. This plane faces vehicles that have 8+ missile. it get easily overwhelmed by everything so it need to be a lower br
F-16CM 13.7 - 13.3 same issue only carry 6 missile and not the best version of the missile fighting other nation with better weaponry and larger payload. I suggest either give it AIM-120B/C-5 and keep it at 13.7 if so
A-10C GRB 11.7 -11.3 i suggested this in one of my old post. The plane need to be effective its almost there. with the free spaa same this still not making this vehicle valuable. This for cas vehicle. the moment you clear spaa you get closer and another wave of spaa spawn and be immortal to attacks making them the new op vehicle against cas.
AH-1Z 12.0 - 11.7 You forget one !!!
Ka-52 12.0 -11.7 Wait! Wait! Hear me out with the new sam this heli is useless. it what everyone want but the goal is for vehicle to be balance and playable not useless so it should go down as well
SPAA Rework(Spawn reworked) - The moment any vehicle that spawn in they can still have that immortal state but once a Fire or move forward or backward input is made they should become mortals again.
A6E Tram - Need to add its HARMS Missile
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fair point.
I’m aware, but what’s the next step if using these internal statistics produces something absurd? Surely at least someone looked back at the CL-13 incident (where just a few players managed to tamper with stats to produce blatantly non-representative results) and thought ‘that’s not good, we should avoid the same thing happening again’?
Same performance level as kazakhstan frogfoot yesyes
PGZ88 7.7. → 7.7 (Ground Realistic Battles)
It makes no sense that an Anti Air system with radar in an area that’s slowly filling with jets should go up. They’re becoming necessary, radar is no longer just a privilege at this BR, but a need
Stop nerfing it already. The T20 is only highly effective because of the German team, its popularity among skilled players, and the fact that it’s a premium vehicle. A weak player won’t even be able to maintain a positive K/D in it because it has virtually no armor and poor penetration.
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well, not really?
the Su-25BM has a TON of guided ordinance, but is a brick overall.
While the F-5A(G)'s air-to-ground ordinance is lackluster (unless you know how to properly use Bullpups), it still is decently agile.
I think we are discussing arb brs, f5ag is 10.7 in grb so a2g is irrelevant
then fair point, the Su-25s are being moved down so might as well give them a nightmare in uptiers.
F-16CM is fine
AIM-120A is the exact same as AIM-120B
AIm-120C would be a downgrade over AIM-120A/B
PooBIT is not strong enough for 14.3 sure
but downtier to 13.7 is insanity
it should either get double/triple amraam racks and stay, or go to 14.0
You underestimate how much of an upgrade an AESA radar is
It is not useless.
Don’t make it more busted
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