Planned Battle Rating Changes (August 2026)

The best vehicles of the <14.0 bracket aren’t AIM-120 carriers.
There is a good reason for this
the close range meta is much more drastic there as the platforms aren’t quick enough nor have radars good enough to support further range launches.

At top tier airframes are significantly better and faster, this gives the missile a higher effective range and the platforms can somewhat compensate for the bad pull

Radars are also better, which make longer range launches more viable when paired with the superior airframes

they will need to add strong ai bots to fill in the matchmaking times for lower brs I feel like. they can’t keep this level of compression going much further if they plan to keep adding more modern weaponry and systems

I disagree with you and I think Su25BM should go to 10.3.
It’s capability is very limited to only having 2 fire and forget missiles.
It also lacks a targeting pod of any kind, neither normal nor thermal.
It doesn’t have a workable RWR, only 3 bands ( G-H-I ) which makes it
susceptible to all spaa’s in that BR range including Tor and Roland.
The lack of thermal sight makes it free food for that -insert curse word of your choosing- op Ozelot.
It can fire 2 Kh29’s and after that good luck not dying while trying to strafe with rockets.
The only thing it has that’s superior from the rest of the things it faces is a couple of R73.
That’s it.

Ooof. That’ll be a crash FOMO grind…

I obviously can’t see the non-Steam player count, but on Steam the player count has pretty much plateau’d in 2024 and has been on a very slight downward trend since then.

Those steps usually come with increased compression for lower BRs because, as I’ve said, the BR increases always come with simultaneous BR reductions.

Yeah, the lower BRs tend to be more compressed and just keep getting more compressed.

The difference of 2–3 extra reactive armor plates is like the difference of having extra tracks on the turret of a premium Tiger 2.

That is also a bad comparison, given that the T-80UD lacks a thermal imager entirely; a BR increase for the vehicle is justified by the difference between having no thermal imager and having a Gen 2 thermal imager.

he asked for it to be 11.0, you disagree with him because it’s capability is very limited but you think it should be 11.3?

“Guys we add copy paste vehicles to fill BR gaps” Also LEO2A4NL at 10.7 is a BR gap, LEO2A5NL at 12.3 is a BR gap, and now as for the cherry on top the LEO1A5BE will be at 9.0 creating yet another BR gap. Nice one gaijin

Mode: Air Realistic Battles
Vehicle: F-104J
BR Change: 10.3 > 10.7
Reasoning: This aircraft provides superior firepower to the F-104G for China, despite having near identical flight performance. The RWR quality should be a tradeoff for the larger quantity of weapons, rather than simply making it a lower BR.

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Clearly this is wrong at the relevant brs of 13.3 and 13.0, because at these brs the some of the best planes do carry AMRAAMs, for example the F-16ADFs and MLUs, F-4F KWS LV, AV-8B Plus, Tornado F.3 Late, JA-37DIs. It must be noted that at these brs Derby carriers also outperform the Su-30MK2 AMV in terms of statistcis, clearly indicating that missiles with better range and time to target at long ranges out perform more manouverable missiles at those brs, hence why the Su-30MK2 AMV should go down to 13.0, but the Su-30MKK should not, because it gets access to PL-12s, which are far closer to the AMRAAM and Derby in terms of long range performance.

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far from the best 13.3s
they’re middle of the road

I would genuinely rate the MiG-29N higher

harrier is garbage
F-4 is mid
tornado is also garbage
JA-37Di is also pretty mid

The best 13.0s are the Su-27/33 and F-2A
The best 13.3s are the flankers

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You didn’t just seriously compare the Su-30MK2 AMV and MKK to the F-4F KWS, AV-8B Plus, Tornado F.3 Late and JA-37DI

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C2A1
BR Change: 9.3 —>9.0
Reason: Its a Leopard 1A5 with add-on armor and since the 1A5 goes down to 9.0 the C2A1 should go down in br too.

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Huge 4head moment
The Su-27 is 13.0, yet he’s expecting the Su-30MK2 AMV to also be at that BR

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Ground RB
Churchill Crocodile

4.7 → 4.7 (No BR change)

It is currently a worse Mk.VII

Action the bug reports to make its gimmick more useable, and to give it a performance nerf in the mostpart

Mass
Flame time
Flame Ballistics
Armour Thickness (of trailer)


If 5.0 sticks, consider making the trailer (and the flame ability) removeable

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Vehicle: Churchill Crocodile
Issue: The Crocodile trailer was designed to be jettisoned from the tank and this is a feature that should be brought into the game in one of two ways

  1. Make the trailer a modification: This allows for the Croc to be played as a heavier and premium Churchill VII by selecting the trailer to be on or off the vehicle much like camo nets or completely new models like the T-72B and 2S6.
  2. Tank jettisoning be added: this one will require a much more thorough coding job and should be something that is added at a much later date but is something that would be similar to the aircraft empty weapon stores jettison so when the trailer gets shot out or runs out of ammo it automatically ejects.
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Relevant:

Churchill Crocodile trailer should be a removable modification

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/Iks5yJGWzsVu

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I mean, if you let people detach the trailer or buff the flamethrower the Crocodile would have to move up, just like the regular Mk.VII

Neither one should move up imho, but it is, what it is