Planned Battle Rating Changes (August 2026)

Gamemode: Air Realistic
Vehicles: Harrier GR.7 & Tornado GR.4
BR Change: 12.312.0

Reasoning:
Flight performance and payload are extremely suboptimal when dealing with planes in the 12.3-13.3 bracket.

The two IRCCM-capable AIM-9Ms are the only thing that keeps these aircraft from being entirely unplayable, and you may say they justify keeping those aircraft at 12.3, but let’s remember that the Su-39, with its onboard IRCM, varied / extensive payload AND R-73 IRCCM-capable missiles sits at 11.3, and the Su-25BM with the same R-73 missiles sits at 11.0.

As a little sidenote, this change would also help align the BR of those aircraft with British Phantoms for proper lineups in the upcoming Nuclear Escalation gamemode.

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If the TTD used primarily HEAT i’d agree. but bushes are not an issue with APFSDS, especially when commander sight and binoculars are available for an elevated camera that mitigates the obstruction of the bush

You could add the Tornado SLE to that :3

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yeah, its just a worse GR.4 in every circumstance i can name really

Here’s your rank 5 CAS aircraft for Japan
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at 8.3 ground realistic

L39ZA is has no good counter from ground.
Spaag melt facing it.
the only way to realistically deal with the L-39ZA is to spawn another plane but at that point it has already killed 3-4 people.

IT IS TOO EASY TO USE.
We dont get this kind of cas until 8.3 and it should have an even higher ground BR so it faces more radar SPAAG.

It will be DoA. Moving it to 7.7 already makes it meet 8.7 so it gets to AHEAD/HE-VT territory. The flight performance of it doesnt justify such high BR. It flies worse than a 5.7 prop. Currently when it gets hit,it cant turn and sometimes will even just crash cause it cant pull out suddenly.

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compromise for balance reason
remove rocket ballistics computer.

Gaijin has said in the past they can remove something historical for balance reasons.

ngl I had the same idea with that, but the 8 Magic IIs tho…

so far at 12.7 the most IRCCM carried by a single plane is Belgian F-16s (6 AIM-9M or Magic II) followed by F-15A with 4. Maybe can be done if they remove the drop tank pylon support for 2 Magic II (and I don’t like those drop tank pylons either)

Is 3-4 kills a lot?! That’s a fairly common result for a mid-tier aircraft; any aircraft capable of ground attack can achieve that kind of efficiency and more. You’ve listed rank 5 aircraft, so what should I get for 7.3 (main BR for Japanese tanks of rank 5)?

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mind you that most my unguided firing planes have HVARs at 7.7

you can use the Kikka with the 800kg bomb

Absolutely needed.

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Who were the guns invented for? The aircraft in these rank are excellent at dealing with ground vehicles thanks to their guns, and their effective range is no less than that of missiles.

One bomb, a great option for 600 respawn points

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remove the rocket ballistics computer and you can keep it where it is.

Soviet albatros on 6.3 with no ballistics

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Gaijin? Can we please split these into 3 separate threads? One for ground, one for air, and one for naval.

Surely this is a mess for you to go through as well. At least if the topics are split they’ll be more focused.

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Or at least suggestions / br discussions. That would make it much easier for themselves

It is literally PROVEN by the performance of both premium flankers mate

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These are both functionally identical aircraft
Yet the Chinese one performs better

We can even see this with Leopard 2A4s
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Or the 13.3 F-16s
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And again, your stats are hilariously inflated by your sessions in the Su-30MK2
In fact, you are performing twice as well (if not more) as you normally would in the Su-30MK2 than any other aircraft you have.
Stop pushing stupid agendas because you are completely misinformed as to how top tier works

Look at how popular posts are that request the premium flankers to go up:

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There is a very good reason why people are requesting them to move up in br

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You should have said so before. I can agree the MiG-23 to up to 12.0, if the F-4J/S also goes up in BR

Can you please, for once, make a comment about a vehicle that isn’t british.

I’m not even disagreeing with you, bucc s.1 would be fine at 8.0 tbh. Its just i’ve genuinely never seen you talk about a vehicle that isn’t british, and I’ve never heard you say that you DIDN’t think a british vehicle was overtiered.